What To Do When She Says I Have A Boyfriend

A chick usually only says this for one of two reasons:

Case 1) She really has a BF , likes you but doesn't want to feel guilty about cheating on her BF . This is classical "chick logic" at work here and is good, because it means you are on your way to a fuck, even in spite of the BF ... Basically this happens because she thinks that if she tells you about the BF now, she can relax and let you you fuck her anyways, since its "not her fault now" that she fucked you, because, she *did* tell you about the boyfriend, and you ignored it, ie. she "had no choice in the matter".

Case 2) She may (or may not) have a BF , but is feeling not secure and defensive so threw this up to slow you down. This is different than the above situation in (1). Here you got to get her to relax and like you more and then continue.. Read more on this below in mrsex4unyc's comments. Before that, a good comeback when you ask a chick her number, and she says "I have a BF "... Say "I didn't ask *HIM* out, I asked *YOU*... now, the number..." This will usually throw a chick off, and you can then get the phone number...

How to indirectly ask about boyfriend?

What is the desired outcome? To fuck her. Why should you bother whether she has a boyfriend? Many girls _always_ have someone they can call a boyfriend. But ... but ... they can find a better one! As Ross would say. So here's a 3 step scenario:

1 - don't ask about BF .
2 - seduce her.
3 - fuck her.

Possibly, a fourth: 4 - get her to dump him for you.

In any case, if she's happy with him she will let you know early enough in phase 2. EXACTLY CORRECT! first of all FORGET ABOUT whether she has a BF . if she does and she doesn't want you, she will TELL YOU HERSELF! make no mistake, she hasn't forgotten about him until you bring the guy up. she's seeing if she likes you more. I started dating a girl I had LJBF 'd and I told her that the only reason I waited so long was that she told me when we met that she had a boyfriend. she was still seeing the guy when I started screwing her. she said "normally when I see a guy that I like, I tell him I'm single" see what I mean. she told me she had a boyfriend and is STILL sexing me AND admitted to me that she only has a boyfriend when it's necessary to back a guy off. when she is in front of a guy she wants, she acts like she doesn't have a boyfriend at all. the other points are correct also. a boyfriend is an obstacle to the desired outcome: fucking her. you may or may not have to deal with this. in my case, I have noticed that chicks do what they want to when they want to. all YOU have to do is get them to believe they want you to fuck them and it's on. boyfriend or no boyfriend :)

If she says she has a boyfriend.... I usually just say "Figures" and follow up with a few compliments and a boy-I'm-glad-I-didn't-ask posture (not supplicating, but knowing). That's if I asked her about her status. I always delay asking about boyfriends. I ask about other things first. normally, in the course of a conversation, a chick can tell that you are NOT just talking to her to waste time. you are after fucking her and it becomes her job to become receptive or fend you off. if she decides to fend you off, she will come up with a boyfriend interjection, like you mention later. this may or MAY NOT be true. don't take bitches' word that they are "taken". it is often a nervous reaction that they have since they can't figure out the BEST thing to do, they hide behind what NORMALLY scares guys off. the trick is keying in on their demeanor and their eyes when they say they have a boyfriend. their bodies ALWAYS betray them, so make sure you are looking at her face AND body when she says this. some chicks, you can tell they mean that they are CONTENT with their boyfriends and are not entertaining sex with anyone else. some chicks, you can tell that they only want a RELATIONSHIP with their boyfriends, but are willing to FUCK YOU if you can stand having no strings attached and perhaps not even her number so you can call her in the future (normally she says she LIVES with her boyfriend to hide her number).

Whether she has a boyfriend or not is IRRELEVANT... UNTIL you decide you are going to fuck her. Then you either need to bring him up and press her for the information where her relationship is lacking OR make her recall her boyfriend and how good he makes her feel and usurp the feelings for yourself. Either way, a "boyfriend" is merely a change in the game, like playing football against 15 players instead of 11. the game is the same though. chicks operate on FREE WILL. as long as you can get them to BELIEVE that they want to fuck YOU, that's it! boyfriends, husbands, girlfriends, religion, NOTHING COUNTS if you can make her BELIEVE she wants you deep inside her... NOW! If she injects the boyfriend into the conversation unsolicited, a neg may be in order, or a simple diversion to whether or not she plans to marry him. I like the are you getting married to him angle a lot. the first time I used it I was surprised at the ADAMANT denial of marrying her boyfriend :) after that, I always use it if I decide NOT to bring him up and get her to talk about him favorably. Another thing I like to use if she is DEFENSIVELY bringing up her boyfriend is "so where is he tonight?" If she doesn't have a good excuse like he is working late because he is a stock trader, I play her into a "he's cheating on you right now" mentality. chicks can't stand that. PLUS they have to carry this with them from now on.

I break down their BELIEF in what their boyfriend TELLS THEM he has to do. me: so where is your boyfriend tonight? her: he had to stay late to prepare for a meeting tomorrow me: he stays late at work every night? her: no, only on tuesdays because the staff meeting is wednesdays me: her: what me: hahaha my boy used to call his girlfriend from my house to say he was working late... her: and? me: well, nothing... then we would hit the strip clubs! boy he was a horny guy... he used to put the dollars in the strippers' g-strings with his teeth and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah then he would drop me off and go home to fuck his girl HAHAHAHA what a sucker! :) whether they believe me or not is irrelevant because they don't know me and they don't know my "friend" that used to do this. all they do know is that they now have an alternative version of what their man is doing tonight and every night that he is not with her. after that sinks in, I talk about wasting time and wasting your life and passing up opportunities to do what you REALLY WANT TO DO just because of some bullshit you told someone one day, like "I am only going to fuck you" when they are out doing whatever they want. then I bring up chicks that got cheated on and how stupid they felt when they were telling me about how they got played :) you can see how it just strings along and breaks their BELIEF in their man. adding the effects of alcohol, you often get a flirtatious effect from the chick deciding to "get him back for cheating" when he was at work the whole time :)

Personally, I find pursuing taken women to be lame and low-percentage, but Ross touts his "boyfriend destroyer" pattern. it is lame as far as seduction goes, but there is much skill involved. the trick is to stay fluid and change your style according to the way the game changes before your eyes. if she doesn't have a boyfriend, that implies that she is available (will take anybody) OR very picky (won't take anybody) if she does have a boyfriend that means she is committed (won't fuck anybody) OR using him for security (will fuck YOU, but that's as far as it goes... no relationship, just fun for her) you can see how it is irrelevant whether she has a boyfriend or not. what IS relevant is how she feels about herself and what she wants out of this night, right now and what she wants out of her future. figure it out and change yourself into the man she wants to fuck her tonight. it's not very complicated after you elicit her values.

Suggested reading (pdf e-books):

William Robinson - Woman Her Sex And Love Life
Haldeman Julius - What Great Men Have Said About Women

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Secrets Of Dating Beautiful Women

BEAUTIFUL WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT...

Or are they?

I get a lot of emails from guys who ask me what they should do, because they've met an UNUSUALLY attractive woman. It seems that most men intuitively guess that they need to do something SPECIAL with a REALLY hot woman...something different than they'd usually do.

If you are going to date BEAUTIFUL women, there are a few things that you should keep in mind.

First of all, they are still WOMEN.

So the concepts and techniques that you've learned from me will still apply.

But there are a few things that you will want to remember when you're dealing with the UNUSUALLY attractive women.

1) She's likely to be or have been a model, an actress, or a dancer (topless or otherwise).

When a woman goes through the experience of these professions, certain things occur like clockwork.

First of all, she's quickly realizes that these industries are all filled with sleazy, opportunistic men who are REALLY in it for the sex.

This provides a unique sort of education for a woman, as she gets to practice "playing against" some of the best "players" out there.

These men have often been in the industry for many years, and have learned and created specific techniques for manipulating women... and getting sex from them.

After just a few months or a year in the business, most women come out the other side with a different perspective on men.

And they come out SMARTER.

In other words...

THEY KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TELLING STORIES JUST TO GET SEX

One of these women also learns how to make a man feel INSTANTLY uncomfortable if she doesn't want to talk to him. It's a natural, normal defense mechanism, and beautiful women are usually very good at it.

If she has been a topless dancer, then you can bet on a couple of things... One, she's not going to tell you up front about it. Two, she's going to have some issues when it comes to connecting with other human beings on a "real" level. Dancers have to learn how to ACT like real people, while disconnecting their actual true selves from the interactions. It's usually not a good thing.

2) Beautiful women have more choices, but this often means that they're also bored.

Most guys assume that a really beautiful woman is only interested in tall, rich, handsome men.

Well, these things certainly don't hurt.

But guess what?

Just like anything else, the novelty wears off for beautiful women.

Sure, it's nice to be 19 years old and riding around in a Mercedes, going to dinner at nice places, etc.

But beautiful women are still people, and people get bored with things quickly.

It doesn't take long after you have everything you want... before you start wanting things just because you CAN'T HAVE THEM.

More on this in just a moment.

3) Beautiful women are used to being treated special because of their physical beauty, and not appreciated for their minds or talents.

Beauty creates distance.

The more beautiful a woman is (or makes herself with makeup, clothing, hairstyles, and other "enhancements") the more difficult it becomes for other humans to interact with her and communicate with her in a "normal" way.

When you start talking to a woman who has obviously spent many hours preparing herself, putting on makeup, choosing just the right outfit, doing her hair, and MOST IMPORTANTLY practicing that certain "attitude" that creates the air of untouchable beauty, YOU CAN FEEL IT.

Something is very different.

She knows it and you know it.

And she WANTS you to know it...

Beauty gives women power.

IT GIVES WOMEN POWER BECAUSE IT CAUSES MEN TO "GIVE AWAY" THEIR POWER.

...so let's talk about what these things mean...and what to do about them...

How do you communicate to a model, actress or dancer that you're comfortable with them, and not intimidated by their job or beauty?

Right! Make fun of them!

If a woman says "I'm a model", say "Oh, like a parts model or something? What, do you have sexy toes?"

If she says "I'm an actress", say "Nice, so what you're telling me is that you're a waitress, but you do some extra work on the side?"

If she's a topless dancer, say "How did you get this job? What, did you have to pay someone off?"

Joking around, busting on them, and teasing INSTANTLY communicates that you're NOT going to give them any special treatment for their "beauty job", and that, if anything, you see their job as an "average" thing to be doing.

Works like magic.

To address the issue of beautiful women having more opportunities to live "the good life" and be spoiled by men who have money, etc...

As I said, everything in life gets boring if you get too much of it.

Sooner or later, every guy in a suit and tie with a Mercedes starts to blend into the next. And all the food starts to taste the same at nice restaurants (beautiful women never order anything off the menu without changing SOMETHING anyway).

So what does a woman who has it all WANT?

SHE WANTS TO BE "CHALLENGED."

Here's a GREAT mindset to take with a woman who seems to be a little too used to "the good life"...

Just say "You know what? You're a spoiled BRAT."

That should get her attention.

Then follow up with "It's too bad you're not more of a normal, nice girl..."

The protests should be starting by this point...

"But I AM a nice girl..."

"Suuuure you are. Me too."

Are you with me?

The message is "Just because you're spoiled and snotty, don't think you're going to get special treatment from me. In fact, it's a problem."

This creates a HUGE challenge (which attractive women love), and sets you apart from all the other "boring" guys she's been out with lately.

Will some women stick their noses up in the air and laugh at you? Sure, it will happen once in awhile. Good. It's better sooner than later... and I mean that.

And finally, to deal with the fact that Beauty creates distance, you must be strong... you must remember that her beauty is a freak accident of nature (combined with the magic of hair and beauty products).

Best way to proceed? Don't mention or acknowledge her looks at all. Totally avoid the topic, and if she brings it up, just make fun of her.

This one idea alone, or ignoring her beauty and treating her like just another friend who you're comfortable with will have a MAJOR effect.

Sometimes women will get so shaken by this that they'll start acting NERVOUS. They'll wonder if they have eyeliner running down their face, or if something else is wrong.

Here's the deal: Women can tell INSTANTLY if you're affected by their beauty. If you are, they know that they're in control.

MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN WIND UP CRAVING ATTENTION.

They become so used to getting massive amounts of special attention that they HAVE to have it. It becomes part of life.

And when they meet a man that is interesting, charming, funny (AND COCKY!), they take note.

Is this everything? No, but it's a damn good start.

Oh, one more IMPORTANT thing.

I'd like you to think for a moment about what it's like when you see a REALLY beautiful woman walk by.

I'm talking about the kind of woman that you only see every few MONTHS or so... maybe once a year.

Think about how you stop, look again, keep looking...

And how it makes you feel inside.

Guess what?

To that unusually beautiful woman, most men seem the same. To her, men all blur together into a big mass of compliments, offers for dates, and attention.

But there is a type of guy that REALLY makes her stop, do a double take, and pay attention.

There is a type of guy that STANDS OUT... the kind of guy that comes along maybe every few months... or maybe only once a year.

By David DeAngelo

Suggested reading (pdf e-books):

Chris Jackson - Secrets Of Undressing Women
Robert Henderson - Secrets Of Dating Asian Women

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How To Start Talking To A Woman In A Nightclub

One of the single biggest mistakes guys make in nightclubs is focusing all of their time on one girl. They don't realize that in a bar or nightclub the reality is that you can meet as MANY women as you want. Unlike other situations, women usually stick around a club for several hours, so you're sure to see a woman again. Meeting a lot of women is important - if it doesn't work out with one, you'll have several other options. PLUS, you'll subconsciously come across as more of a challenge because you'll know that she isn't your only choice.

So here's how to do it:

When you see a girl (or group of girls) that you'd like to meet, go up to them and get them laughing or engage them in some simple conversation (I'll tell you some great opening lines in a second). Then tell them you have to get back to your friends, and maybe you'll see them later. Move on to the next girl or group and do EXACTLY the same thing. This does a couple of important things all at once... One of these things is that it sets you apart from most other guys in her mind.

Why? Because most guys will start a conversation and then "cling" on to the woman, staying FAR too long and boring her with routine conversation. On top of that, most guys wait for the WOMAN to end the conversation or walk to a different part of the bar. When YOU are the one to end the conversation first, it communicates that you're an independent guy who doesn't "need" to talk to her. This is like STEROIDS for attraction.

It also builds "social proof." When women see that you're talking to other women in the bar, they know that you're an in-demand kind of guy... and if they aren't able to win you over, some other woman will. Women are highly competitive, and this drives them NUTS - which, of course, is great for attraction.

It also creates familiarity - the next time you see them they'll feel you are old buddies.

GREAT OPENING LINES

A powerful way to start these conversations is to point out something funny that's happening in the club. Find a guy who's wearing a funny outfit, then walk up to a group of girls and say, "Hey girls, do you think I'd look better if I was wearing THAT guy's shirt?"

Another great approach is to purposefully bump into a girl, then look her right in the eyes and say, "Watch it punk," with a totally serious face. The girl will start to get all sorts of funny looks on her face - she won't know if you're trying to start a fight with her (which of course makes no sense whatsoever) or what - then right when you feel she's about to call you an asshole... crack a smile and bump her with your butt. Tell her "I'm just kidding, you dork"... she'll start cracking up.. and you'll be IN.

This is completely different than anything they've ever seen in a club. It's totally ballsy, and it totally works.

Or, as an alternative, after you bump her with your butt simply walk away. What's great about this is it creates a sense of "mystery" in her mind - she'll wonder where you went, and when she sees you again she'll be very interested to talk to you.

Another fun thing to do is to find a group of girls sitting down at a table, sit right down next to them and say, "Hey girls, sorry I'm late, traffic was CRAZY getting over her. You didn't order drinks without me did you? What kind of drink do I have coming?

THE THUMB WAR

But one of the most childish and ridiculously enjoyable ways to approach a woman is with a thumb war.

Walk up to a woman, don't say a word, and put out your hand like you're doing to shake hands. But when she gives you her hand, look at it funny, turn it around in thumb war position, and start the game. Try taunting her while you're playing. "You suck. You are so going to lose... I'm going to dominate you right now in front of all your friends..."

After you annihilate her, crack a sly smile and then walk away. She'll be so hooked that don't be surprised if she approaches YOU later in the evening to find out more about who you are.

SAY SOMETHING FLIRTY EVERY TIME

The key to all this is to say something flirty to her every time you see her.

Tell her she looks like she's up to something. "Are you guys planning something over here... you look suspicious... what kind of trouble are you guys planning on getting into..."

Accuse her of following you and tell her to stop.

Touch her glass with yours and say "Cheers..."

Every time you leave you build up the sense of anticipation and challenge. And women love it.

POSITION YOURSELF

There's always a place at the bar where everyone goes up to get a drink... wher everyone gathers and tries to get the bartender's attention. If you can grab a bar stool that's right next to that place, it can be FANTASTIC... because all night long you'll have women bumping into you, etc. You'll have tons of "ready made" opportunities to talk to women.

Or grab a spot next to a walkway. When girls walk by, you'll have a change to stick out your glass and clink, challenge her to a thumb war, or bust on her.

FISHING VS. HUNTING

It helps here to think of this as "fishing" more than "hunting.

Regular guys go hunting for women. Naturals go fishing.

Hunting means you have a motive. Women pick up on this and will see you as being too hungry, desperate, needy, and "trying to hard."

If she can tell that you CARE whether she is into you or not, she will INSTANTLY disqualify you... even if you are doing everything else right. If you put too much importance into the interaction, you'll also have a tendency to think too much and screw it up.

On the other hand, if you are relaxed and just out to have a good time and make some new friends, women will be naturally drawn to your laid-back attitude.

Be a fisherman, not a hunter. Less effort will give you more results.

By David DeAngelo

Suggested reading (pdf e-books):

Simon Heong - How To Instantly Attract Any Woman
Don Diebel - How To Talk To Single Women When On A Date

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